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2021-11-22 at 3:02 PM #16113Wondering whether anyone’s used the new LTEBee modem with a Verizon SIM. If so, what APN did you use? So far, I’ve tried “-” and “vzwinternet”, which worked with thWondering whether anyone’s used the new LTEBee modem with a Verizon SIM. If so, what APN did you use? So far, I’ve tried “-” and “vzwinternet”, which worked with this SIM in a Digi XBee3 modem, but not the EnviroDIY LTEBee.
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2021-11-24 at 11:22 AM #16116Hmm, so maybe no one has tried Verizon with the new modem yet. SIMCom claims that chip supports Verizon, but (suspiciously?) they don’t have a Verizon Certification document available for downloHmm, so maybe no one has tried Verizon with the new modem yet. SIMCom claims that chip supports Verizon, but (suspiciously?) they don’t have a Verizon Certification document available for download, as they do for other carriers. And they list all their supposedly supported carriers under a heading labeled “Certifications(plan)”, which makes me wonder if it’s not been certified by Verizon yet.
We have 4 stations in the field running via Verizon on the Digi modem, so I hope this gets resolved soon. It’s nice to have options for multiple carriers when you operate stations across the country.
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2021-11-24 at 5:45 PM #16117These modules are new enough that I think everyone who has bought one so far is using the same Hologram SIM cards that we use in all of ours. I’ve deployed over 50 of them in the past couple mThese modules are new enough that I think everyone who has bought one so far is using the same Hologram SIM cards that we use in all of ours. I’ve deployed over 50 of them in the past couple months with Hologram cards, and according to our dashboard page that shows connection information, they are active on all the major carriers including Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint. I haven’t used a specific Verizon SIM card, but I see no reason why it wouldn’t work.
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2021-11-24 at 5:51 PM #16119Ok, that’s very interesting. It sounds like the LTEBee with a Hologram SIM has been using what it sees as the ‘best’ carrier for a given connection. The Digi modems would never do thOk, that’s very interesting. It sounds like the LTEBee with a Hologram SIM has been using what it sees as the ‘best’ carrier for a given connection. The Digi modems would never do that for us in areas where Verizon was the only viable option, so we had to get Verizon-branded SIMs for those cases.
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2021-12-03 at 7:29 AM #16130FWIW, I asked SIMCom about their Verizon certification, and this is their reply:
We are in the process of getting the certification. All testing has been completed and we are just needin
FWIW, I asked SIMCom about their Verizon certification, and this is their reply:We are in the process of getting the certification. All testing has been completed and we are just needing to schedule and official drive test with Verizon. After this we expect to have certification shortly after. I am estimating we will have it completed late December or January.
Matt
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2022-08-24 at 6:06 PM #17278The SIMCom 7080G modem chip upon which the EnviroDIY LTE Bee is built did not have Verizon certification until early August. Once they notified me, I asked SIMCom support what APN setting to use for VThe SIMCom 7080G modem chip upon which the EnviroDIY LTE Bee is built did not have Verizon certification until early August. Once they notified me, I asked SIMCom support what APN setting to use for Verizon, and this was their response:
Set you APN as follows:
at+cgdcont=1,”ipv4v6”,””
at+cgdcont=2,”ipv4v6”,”vzwadmin”
at+cgdcont=3,”ipv4v6”,”vzwinternet”We were able to get an EnviroDIY LTE Bee to connect to Verizon, using ModularSensors, by setting the apn to an empty string, e.g.:
12// Network connection informationconst char* apn = "";Hopefully this helps anyone else who needs Verizon coverage with these newer modems.
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2022-08-25 at 7:27 PM #17280@mbarney, thanks for the settings. What was the sim supplier that you used – a Verizon direct, or an MNVO like REVX.
I did get an email earlier this week from SimCom that there 7080G was no
@mbarney, thanks for the settings. What was the sim supplier that you used – a Verizon direct, or an MNVO like REVX.I did get an email earlier this week from SimCom that there 7080G was now certified by Verizon, so good to know it works 🙂
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2022-08-26 at 1:57 PM #17285
Hi @neilh20, I believe the SIM we used was a RevX.
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2022-08-30 at 2:36 AM #17287@mbarney, do you know if the REVX plan/sim card you had success with is the CATM version (50mb for $5) or the 4G version (10 mb for &12)? With the new modems I have not been able to register on th@mbarney, do you know if the REVX plan/sim card you had success with is the CATM version (50mb for $5) or the 4G version (10 mb for &12)? With the new modems I have not been able to register on the network (cereg 0,3) using the 4G plan and sim that worked for a couple years with the old xbee modem.
@shicks, RevX systems technical support has indicated that the IMEIs associated with the new LTEBee modems are not Verizon certified.Looking at this line, the current IMEI is not appearing as Verizon End Certified. Verizon rejects registration of device’s that are not Certified through the upload process to the Verizon Device Management Database (DMD). This is typically done by the manufacturer unless you have an Open Development application completed with Verizon.
If you believe this device to be certified, please contact the manufacturer and request that they re-upload the device IMEI’s to Verizon as they are not valid at this time.
From what I understand, SimCom has received certification for the module itself on Verizon, but once integrated into a device (like the LTEBee) the entire device must be certified a second time before Verizon will allow it to register on their network. Do the new LTEBee modems have this end certification with Verizon, and can their IMEIs be “uploaded” to Verizon?
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2022-08-30 at 11:42 AM #17288End device certification for an open source DIY project like this is nearly impossible, since there’s an infinite number of combinations that users can configure their station with various equipEnd device certification for an open source DIY project like this is nearly impossible, since there’s an infinite number of combinations that users can configure their station with various equipment, accessories, antennas, not to mention all the ways they can change the actual code running on the main processor board. That’s why we try to use modular telemetry devices that are certified by most carriers, however Verizon has always been picky about allowing DIY devices on their networks. I’m unfamiliar with REVX, but I know other people have had success using other non-certified (and non-EnviroDIY) devices with Verizon networks with other sim card providers.
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2023-01-13 at 11:47 AM #17540@shicks, has anyone from Stroud contacted Verizon about this? I am also hitting a wall with adding the LTEBee modem to our Verizon account. The rep from Verizon that we work with is willing to speak w@shicks, has anyone from Stroud contacted Verizon about this? I am also hitting a wall with adding the LTEBee modem to our Verizon account. The rep from Verizon that we work with is willing to speak with the device manufacturer to get them added to the Device Management Database. How do the LTEBee modems differ from the Digi modems such that Verizon would accept Digi and not the EnviroDIY LTEBee? It would really be great to use the LTEBee modems that we purchased since many of our Digi modems have failed after a year or two and do not perform consistently (which other users have noted).
Please let me know if anyone at EnviroDIY is willing to speak with the Verizon rep and I can provide contact information.
Thanks,
Dan
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2022-08-30 at 12:40 PM #17291@jamesbailey I’ll check with my colleague to find out exactly which SIM he used for the test; he’s in the field for a few days. My test code is based on https://github.com/EnviroDIY/Modula@jamesbailey I’ll check with my colleague to find out exactly which SIM he used for the test; he’s in the field for a few days. My test code is based on https://github.com/EnviroDIY/ModularSensors/blob/master/examples/DRWI_SIM7080LTE/DRWI_SIM7080LTE.ino, and the only modem-related code change I made was to the APN.
-Matt
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2022-09-07 at 6:39 PM #17303
I’ve confirmed that the Verizon SIM we used was this one, from NimbeLink:
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/nimbelink-llc/NL-SIM-VER-M1/7101751 -
2023-06-13 at 4:34 PM #17883Hello @mbarney, or @dan-wachusett I’m looking to try the LTE BEE – just wondering if you have used the RevX Verizon CAT-M sims.Hello @mbarney, or @dan-wachusett I’m looking to try the LTE BEE – just wondering if you have used the RevX Verizon CAT-M sims.
I have been using it with the Dig XB3-C-A2 and have a few spare. Seems like it should work at this stage, but many ships have foundered on unseen shoals.!
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2023-06-15 at 9:36 AM #17894Hi Neil,
I ordered my Verizon SIMs through a company called Simetry and have used them successfully with the Digi XBee modem (XB3-C-A2). Unfortunately, I have had these modems fail as well, but for u
Hi Neil,I ordered my Verizon SIMs through a company called Simetry and have used them successfully with the Digi XBee modem (XB3-C-A2). Unfortunately, I have had these modems fail as well, but for unknown reasons. I have a bunch of the LTE Bee modems, but I can’t use them with our Verizon account because of the end-level certification issue. As far as I know, the Dig XB3-C-A2 modem is the only option available that will work with a Verizon data plan.
If you find another option that will work on Verizon please let us know.
-Dan
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2023-06-15 at 12:50 PM #17899Hello Dan, thanks for the info. I’m using RevX from Digikey “,”1998-251-ND”,”VERIZON SIM TRIPLE FF CAT-M” with XB3-CA-2/XB3M1
For the Enviro LTE Bee, RevX supports
Hello Dan, thanks for the info. I’m using RevX from Digikey “,”1998-251-ND”,”VERIZON SIM TRIPLE FF CAT-M” with XB3-CA-2/XB3M1For the Enviro LTE Bee, RevX supports suggests ATT may be more flexible, so fairly low rish ~ 1998-1011-ND RevX Systems Corp. TRI SIM 2FF/3FF/4FF SIM AT&T
I’ve got a query out to Digikey about an M5Stack Variant of the SIM7080G for which networks it works on. https://forum.digikey.com/t/m5stack-u128-which-cellular-networks/31823/2
Seems like Digikey should have that as part of supplying the devices, though its not a XBee format.I’d be interested in any perceptions/timeline on how long you found the XB3-C-A2 worked for you before failing. I’ve got a number that I’ve used, and doing some focused testing in Jan/Feb this year and some more I’m deploying. I have made some adaptions to TinyGSM to handle some issues in the way it connects, so I’ve got my fingers crossed.
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2023-06-13 at 7:31 PM #17884I think I found the answer by emailing support@rexV, since I got it from amazon.com Mar.2022 it wasn’t certified for Verizon.
This can be checked https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/act
I think I found the answer by emailing support@rexV, since I got it from amazon.com Mar.2022 it wasn’t certified for Verizon.This can be checked https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/activation-troubleshooting
support@RexV said “RevX does not certify devices for use on M2M/IoT rate plans, rather the manufacturer registers the IMEI with the carrier for end certification”
I guess I can try the one I have on another network and see if it works.
@mbarney, I was wondering where did you get your latest ones that work with Verizon. Many thanksI was wondering, @shicks do you have a date for when the current stock of EnviroDIY LTE Bee SIM7080G parts was placed on Amazon.
amazon.com/gp/product/B09W3N37LL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AUR1TC3X771V3&psc=1
many thanks
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2023-06-23 at 11:03 AM #17917@neilh20 The most recent one I purchased was: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/revx-systems-corp/251/1998-251-ND/10484959
However, the volunteer determined that AT&T served his site best@neilh20 The most recent one I purchased was: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/revx-systems-corp/251/1998-251-ND/10484959
However, the volunteer determined that AT&T served his site best, so I have not tested nor deployed this SIM.Best,
Matt
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